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I couldn't listen to this past the intro. What stall claims as the reason Lei isn't on doesnt jive with her own account of why she isn't there or what happened Friday night.
ReplyDeleteI'm not arguing her cheating, she has obliquely confirmed it. But it would be nice if there was some truth in the opening, not this cowards excuse and misdirection.
Plane and simple, you feel confident she cheated. You don't want to be associated with that. You removed her from the show. End of story.
While we are at it, can we replace the obnoxious Brit? Get some intelligence flowing thru this again?
Maybe you had a conversation with the others that I wasn't a part of?
DeleteI don't remember deciding, or anyone else deciding, to remove her from the show and then tell a different story on the podcast. Who knows though, maybe you have some supernatural power where you can have a thought, that thought then becomes a reality, and that's how it all actually went down. Or you just like to run around putting words in the mouths of others.
When you saying things like "JIVE" and start flaming Pig, it's really hard to take you serious. But foolish me, I'll entertain you, Mr. I'm not man enough to post my handle.
DeleteJive with a web of lies?
Pig and I were there on time, in fact, I was on Skype before Pig. Rand and Omega were late just as I stated. She didn't want to face the music over voice chat with us. It was obvious. I took the time out of MY vacation to record the podcast and I wanted to hear the story from her. I did a little light reading the night before in that huge thread on TA to get all caught up on the matter so I knew the WHOLE story. Page after page, the evidence was stacking up like pancakes.
And it wasn't just "I" who thought she needed to go nor did I make the decision on my own. We all came to the conclusion that if she did cheat, she had to go. She never once attempted to reassure us of anything. Listener challenge with a cheater on board? That wouldn't really work so well moving forward.
Instead of addressing the issue, she decided to deflect and ignore the issue entirely. When she says, "on her own terms," she is really saying that you will never, ever get the whole truth out of me. Just the dialog that she wants to dictate. Maybe in a couple hundred years the truth will come from her lips or finger tips, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon. I hope I am wrong.
We experienced that behavior first hand with the train wreck that was the Gamerscore Popcast marathon before it became the pwnageddon. She wouldn't give our listeners the whole truth and danced around it EXAXTLY like she is now. Made us look like a bunch of Muppets in the process. EXACTLY like she is now.
Over the last year we have built up listeners with 15k-25K per episode and growing. With downloads from basically every country in the world. I thought OUR listeners deserved a solid, sincere explanation from her. THEY deserve that. I guess she doesn't think she owes you a damn thing. So we are stuck with just moving on.
Ever heard the expression squeeze the blood out of a turnip? That's the situation we were faced with. There was no right or wrong way to handle it. All dialog would lead to the same place. Nowhere.
Good job guys. Laughed quite a few times. Keep it up.
ReplyDeleteThanks.
DeleteFirst poster said:
ReplyDelete"What stall claims as the reason Lei isn't on doesnt jive with her own account of why she isn't there or what happened Friday night."
Just remember, cheating and lying go hand in hand. How anyone could even consider anything she says to be a true account of what actually happened is absurd.
Look at her website for example. She could have blogged almost anywhere but instead chose a website where she has to physically approve a comment for it to appear. Control. That in itself speaks volumes.
I'm not a big Stallion fan but I feel sorry for him. I bet he is sick to death of being used by people like her.
All too funny. Your last statement is something I'm aware of and consciously watch out for. I can safely say I don't feel that way with the current members.
DeleteSo disappointed...
ReplyDeleteI really wanted to believe her but she's been dancing around too long now, I wish she'd just admit it now and give up on the lies.
It's definitely not good for the reputation of the legit big shots out there. I mean even I get random messages about my GS and completion, people accusing me of cheating or modding and I'm only on 50.000/93% can't imagine what it must be like once you hit the 250.000 and up...You definitely don't want to be associated with cheaters!
Little side note:
ReplyDeleteAs for having a girl on the show, I do like that a lot. Unfortunately I don't know many girls that are up there in the high 200k+ GS range, but there's so many dedicated girl gamers out there that I hope you'll run into one! Maybe it's silly, but as a fanatic female gamer myself I did like her being there, and I've met quite a lot of great girls online!
It would be great having a girl gamer on the show too for variety, but Lei didn't even have a legit gamerscore, so she couldn't have stayed on the show.
DeleteAs did I. We all came together too quick and just did it. Probably the biggest mistake of all. If we ever do get another co-host, chances are, it will be another female.
DeleteNah, better wait until you know someone a bit better.
Delete@anon 9:09: I agree, if she had owned up to it at least she could have left with a bit of dignity left, maybe... But keeping her in is like supporting cheating.
I did a lot of investigating on this issue and the evidence just keeps pointing towards Lei cheating, there is no doubt about it now. I went on her site to see if she has faced the music and confessed, but to no avail. I noticed her blog comments were full of people licking her arse and, after reading the tags (racist bigot being one of them) and seeing a sexist remark about men, I decided to comment, only to be greeted with a message saying "pending approval"... we all know that comment will never see the light of day...
ReplyDeleteStall is right, she needed to go. You can't have a podcast based purely on achievements when you have a cheater, it totally goes against everything you stand for, especially when you have the world no. 1 as a host on the show. (Although, I must say Stall in response to one of your posts on here, EVERY day is a vacation for you, try being in the army for 24 years).
The podcast, TA and achievements in general will be better without her. Good riddance I say, we don't need a sexist cheater anywhere near the community :)
Damn!! 24 years in the army is a lot. Big props! And thanks for keeping us safe.
DeleteLet my clarify. My girlfriend DEF did not like that I was taking a day out of our week away to be on a podcast in the smack middle of the day. I got the ol' stink eye more than once.
Lol! I'm surprised you can even have a girlfriend and a GS like that...
DeleteMy BF and I both play, a lot, but if we start to play games we don't enjoy just for the GS we'd probably throw a couple of our xbox's at each other very quickly. As completionists we tend to get very edgy at times anyway even with games we love :P
Instead of finding a permanant replacement you should have guests each week (or 1 a month maybe) like you did on the old Party Chat Podcast.
ReplyDeletesmrnov, Pig and Stoph were some of the guests, iirc.
I second this, the last time you did it with the old podcast it made each show different and interesting.
DeleteIm sad to see lay go but if you cheat you cant stay on a legit podcast as it calls all your gs into question!!!! when you associate with a cheat you get labelled a cheat and as for STOPHJ removing him self as a protest just doesnt do anything it shows cheats stick together, he has a dodgy gs and has been called out, as for phatal1ty if your innocent you come out and show proof. sorry for you stallion as its made you guys look stupid!!! ill still watch and was wondering have you removed her from your friends list????
ReplyDeleteHanding in the keys
ReplyDeletePosted by phatal1ty on July 31, 2012
I planned on writing this post with an air of indifference with a tone of being somewhat passive… but then I logged in to twitter this morning and remembered I don’t have to play nice anymore and I don’t have to pretend I give a shit how I reflect on others or any other bullshit really.
It would be fun to talk about who is a lazy bigot, who is a two faced asshole, but want to start with the guy who does the lions share of the work… Omega Deez doesn’t get the credit he deserves and with my departure he will be left to pick up the slack if they all want to see the podcast go on…. and Rand Al Thor19, my friend and anchor…. When StophJ was removed it was a really dark patch for me, I felt my circle of friends fragment and the choice was pretty easy… but along came Rand, his contribution made staying and putting in effort to put on a happy face tolerable and his friendship was what kept me going…
Pigumus Prime and I have not gotten along for a while, and I’m sure the strained tension is detectable each week but its not been nearly as bearable outside of the podcast recording sessions… I found it increasingly hard to respect him and take him seriously… and as the only man who doesn’t contribute anything other than negativity I have nothing but resent.
and the best for last… Stallion83, I find it quite telling instead of coming to me during the anarchy of the past week he went to TA first… when he was told he would need my permission only then did he contact me and that prompted his first message to me personally… and the message was more of a demand than a request so naturally I felt quite insulted and annoyed at his entitlement.
Our usual recording time rolled round and I was on time, bear it mind its 7am on a Sat morning for me so I have to wake up around 6.30 make a coffee, brush my teeth, jump in bed with a laptop headset and a game to play. I turned up only saw Pig around and left and went back to sleep feeling like death anyway.
between Sat and Monday Morning no one bothered to tell me anything and they recorded Monday Morning… I work Mon-Fri 9-5 like a normal person. I found it quite funny that when talking to Stallion later on yesterday that he quoted “everything is at a standstill” despite just having put an episode in the can.
Ironically he didn’t ask me to resign since he’s not all that articulate… despite making his mind up and knowing what the outcome ought to be… he can’t put it in to words. (starting to learn this is normal among men) So said it it for him… I handed off the passwords to the email and past on the scripts, deleted dropbox and left the skype group.
I’m sad it ended the way it did and sad that one man and his image means more than anything else, but quietly I’m happy to have 4-6hrs a week of my time back and I’m relieved that I no longer have to consider every action and word reflecting on others.
I’m free
this was phatal1ty's response so you can read it in its full dinosuitgirl glory!!!
Deleteand to think i actually really liked listening to her...damn
DeleteI told you stallion and I guess you finally found out. Remember the message I sent you on TA. Now that I have my revenge on telling TA about her. This is how I found out. Lets begin shall we. When I was on TA you know just looking around I saw she had her score and then it went up about every 30 minutes and that is how I found out. Also those messages I sent you I didn't mean. just remember this...Trololololololo
ReplyDeletewhy hide behind anoniminity??? step up and post your name then !!!!
Deletesorry I thought I did post my name. Well my name is Xbox Troller. Yep thats my gamertag.
DeletePower Parsons < Old tag..... New tag > Kev and emma
ReplyDeleteNot exactly bomb proof anoniminity!!
nick your an idiot i dont give to fucks about that cheating twat i have never ever said anything on this website ever i would not hide you got the wrong tag mate
ReplyDeletekevin you big fat twat nobody cares what you have to say. That slut is a hacker and you're a tag teamer. In fact you're the only cunt on TA whose less popular than phatality is right now!
Deletelol anonymous stupid prick
DeleteHerein lies the danger of taking the words of someone hiding behind anonymity seriously.
DeleteI don't think Nick can substantiate any claim that the original poster (who is clearly is not skilled in machiavellianism) is in fact Kevin (of Kev and Emma).
Similarily, I don't think that the subsequent Anonymous poster can support any claim in regards to Kevin's girth, popularity or how much people may regard his words. I for one am more mindful to listen to someone whose prepared to post under his name, but that's just me.
Maybe everyone should focus on the issues, and not start an uncontrolled flaming session randomly ascribing the role of ne'er do-well based on their personal dislikes.
Identical I.P addresses for kev and the anonymous poster.. Substantiate that!
DeleteNick, If what you say is true then I look forward to your expert report. In it can it have a statement of truth, declaration of your qualifications and creditation, an explanation of how you have come to be in reciept of the IP information (I will of course assume through legal means) and of course all the relevant data. If you could include an appendix explaining how you can magically identify any one individual as using a computer at a given time, as I think it'd be a very useful trick.
DeleteIn the circumstances I will accept electronic service. Feel free to contact me via xbox.com and we'll sort out details.
lol
ReplyDeleteimo if someone is hacking achievements then they should be kicked out the podcast i read that crap on her website she wrote and it might of well been page after page saying nothing but sour grapes over and over , its all her so called friends i feel sorry for the only reason she was let into all them circles was because of gamescore now shes been found out as a hacker and she still expects thier friendship well it dont work like that sweetheart your a cheat plain and simple
ReplyDeleteoh yea and how I found out that she was a cheater is when I was just trolling through her game list for some reason I clicked on the game cars and she has every achievement but one and that one your supposed to unlock after getting every achievement. I really do like lei but when I found this I had to do something.
ReplyDeleteerm dude are you talking about Cars Race-O-Rama? If so then that achievement is unobtainable and no one on TA has it, if anyone does they've hacked it. Maybe do a bit more research if thats what you're declaring a cheater on, there's been other more meaningful evidence. Oh and in case you think i'm making it up
Deletehttp://www.trueachievements.com/a37984/over-achiever-achievement.htm
I loved Batman 2, the flying the game is a little touchy a little too touchy. I am torn between one and two, i love the fact you have free relm but i liked the fact you just had to go a second time around through the story and get all the collectables. its a tough decision to make for me at least. even though lord of the rings is going to follow the story i am still really excited for it. i had swore that i would not play minecraft, but i ended up doing so because all my friends wanted me to play and since i am not one for multi online player ... have a rage issue. so i ended up playing its a great palette cleanser for when your fustrated at whatever game your playing. the only achievement that sucked and took a little planning was riding a pig dont remember what its actually. an easy 200 achievement and it kind of gets your imagination going. keep up the great work guys!!!!! since i started playing the xbox last year i know joining the game late but i have almost 12g i was pretty excited! i hope you get there stallion83 defend your title!!!
ReplyDeleteThanks bud!Kinda feeling the same way myself about 1 and 2 at the moment.
DeleteI admit I haven't listened to the show for personal reasons but the chick has been shady and needed to go. It would be like her having a radio show on tax advice after getting charged with being fraudulent to the IRS. That being said, the piling on that people have been doing...especially over at TA needs to come to an end. She's ostracized from a community she has been part of for years now. How much more punishment does she need outside of MS resetting her score?
ReplyDeleteNot directed at Stallion btw. Just speaking generally.
DeleteConsidering she has been lying about TA IT, rubble roused and not even had the guts to apologize? A lot. I know it sounds harsh, but she chose to state some things in her blog that aren't true and thus opened herself to criticism. If she had been a bit more honest I am sure the community would not have been as harsh because they would not have been lied to.
DeleteSo all the people calling her bitch, twat, and slut...that's cool? She did bad so we can just all be crude and not act like mature individuals? Good to know because the next time some old white haired lady cuts in front of me in line, I am going to call her a dried up old cunt before I drop kick her in the head.
DeleteI never said that. All I am saying is there should have been a little more honesty. Bad language is bad, no matter who it's aimed at.
DeleteComing off a deployment back to game life and into a ton of drama over on TA. Sorry you guys had to deal with the fallout - still a shame Lei isn't fessing up and facing this head on. I for one will miss her input, but she had to go.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the review of Batman 2 - my son and I have been playing the LEGO series and was waiting to see if this was worth our time. Sounds like there have been some great improvements on the series.
Thanks for the show and keep up the good work! Godspeed on the 1M!
Does anyone have a link to the TA thread Stallion mentioned?
ReplyDeleteAgreed that way intelligent individuals can form their own opinions instead of calling her this and that WITHOUT getting all of the information.
DeleteHere's the thread: http://www.trueachievements.com/forum/viewthread.aspx?threadid=2597998 WARNING: It's long!
DeleteBtw darkness, it's clear cut. I didn't think it was my responsibility to prove it by showing every single shred of evidence. The thread was the start then others presenting and showing me how to look at evidence was the final straw.
DeleteI wasn't asking for every shred Ray, nor did I ask you directly just if anyone in the community had the link. Just didn't feel like digging in the TA forums to find the thread thats all. I was just simply trying to encourage other individuals to form their own opinions with the facts. Simply trying to discourage a Salem witch trial occuring. . .
DeleteI see what you mean. I hope you found what you were looking for.
DeleteHi, im looking for tech support for my xbox. The disk drive wont open.
ReplyDeleteWhat is it with you guys and all your damn drama? The whole GSP thing, kicking StophJ off the show, and now we find out the show has cheaters. Your all a bunch of hacks.
ReplyDeleteHow exactly were we suppose to know cheating was going on? It's unfair to assume all of us should know when nobody else did. We found out and were presented with a tough decision to make. I stand by every decision made on the show except for the ones by the people that are no longer involved.
ReplyDeleteSad you have to face all this scrutiny, stall. I'll just say thanks for actually caring about the quality and reputation of your show, and also taking the free time to entertain us, let me know if you need a smartass who has been addicted to games since he was 3, on the show. ;)
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